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Ab Urbe Condita 21.19

Roman envoys rebuffed in Spain

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Liv. 21.19.1Haec dērēcta percunctātiō ac dēnūntiātiō bellī magis ex dignitāte populī Rōmānī vīsa est quam dē foederum iūre verbīs disceptāre, cum ante, tum maximē Saguntō excīsa.This direct question and declaration of war seemed more in keeping with the dignity of the Roman people than to argue in words about the rights of treaties, both before and especially now that Saguntum had been destroyed. Liv. 21.19.2Nam sī verbōrum disceptātiōnis rēs esset, quid foedus Hasdrubalis cum Lutātiī priōre foedere, quod mūtātum est, conparandum erat, cum in Lutātiī foedere disertē additum esset, ita id ratum fore, sī populus cēnsuisset, in Hasdrubalis foedere nec exceptum tāle quicquam fuerit, et tot annōrum silentiō ita vīvō eō conprobātum sit foedus, ut nē mortuō quidem auctōre quicquam mūtārētur?For if it were a matter for verbal argument, what comparison was there between Hasdrubal's treaty and the earlier treaty of Lutatius, which was altered, since in Lutatius' treaty it had been expressly added that it would be valid only if the people approved it, while in Hasdrubal's treaty no such reservation had been made, and the treaty had been so far confirmed by the silence of so many years during his lifetime that not even after its author's death was anything changed?

Liv. 21.19.4Quamquam, et sī priōre foedere stārētur, satis cautum erat Saguntīnīs sociīs utrōrumque exceptīs.And yet, even if the earlier treaty were upheld, the Saguntines were sufficiently protected by the exception of the allies of both sides. Liv. 21.19.4Nam neque additum erat "iīs quī tunc essent" nec "nē quī posteā adsūmerentur;"For neither had 'those who were allies at that time' been added, nor 'that none should be taken on later'; Liv. 21.19.5et cum adsūmere novōs licēret sociōs, quis aequum cēnsēret aut ob nūlla quemquam merita in amīcitiam recipī aut receptōs in fidem nōn dēfendī?and since it was permitted to take on new allies, who would think it fair either that no one should be received into friendship for any services, or that those received under protection should not be defended? Liv. 21.19.5Tantum nē Carthāginiēnsium sociī aut sollicitārentur ad dēfectiōnem aut suā sponte dēscīscentēs reciperentur.The only condition was that allies of the Carthaginians should not be incited to revolt or received if they broke away of their own accord. Liv. 21.19.6Lēgātī Rōmānī ab Carthāgine sīcut iīs Rōmae imperātum erat, in Hispāniam, ut adīrent cīvitātēs et in societātem perlicerent aut āverterent ā Poenīs, trāiēcērunt.The Roman envoys, as they had been ordered at Rome, crossed from Carthage to Spain to approach the communities and either win them over to alliance or turn them away from the Carthaginians.

Liv. 21.19.7Ad Bargusiōs prīmum vēnērunt, ā quibus benignē exceptī, quia taedēbat imperiī Pūnicī, multōs trāns Hibērum populōs ad cupīdinem novae fortūnae ērēxērunt.They came first to the Bargusii, by whom they were kindly received, because they were weary of Carthaginian rule, and they roused many peoples across the Ebro to a desire for a new fortune. Liv. 21.19.8Ad Volciānōs inde est ventum, quōrum celebre per Hispāniam respōnsum cēterōs populōs ab societāte Rōmānā āvertit.From there they came to the Volciani, whose reply, famous throughout Spain, turned the other peoples away from alliance with Rome. Liv. 21.19.9Ita enim maximus nātū ex iīs in conciliō respondit: " quae verēcundia est, Rōmānī, postulāre vōs, utī vestram Carthāginiēnsium amīcitiae praepōnāmus, cum, quī id fēcērunt , crūdēlius, quam Poenus hostis perdidit, vōs sociī prōdiderītis?For thus the eldest of them answered in their council: 'What shame is this, Romans, that you demand that we put your friendship before that of the Carthaginians, when those who did so have been betrayed by you, their allies, more cruelly than the Carthaginian, their enemy, destroyed them? Liv. 21.19.10Ibi quaerātis sociōs cēnseō ubi Saguntīna clādēs ignōta est;I think you should look for allies where the disaster of Saguntum is unknown; Liv. 21.19.10Hispānīs populīs sīcut lūgubre ita īnsigne documentum Saguntī ruīnae erunt, nē quis fideī Rōmānae aut societātī cōnfīdat."to the peoples of Spain the ruins of Saguntum will be a lesson as conspicuous as it is mournful, that no one should trust Roman good faith or a Roman alliance.' Liv. 21.19.11Inde extemplō abīre fīnibus Volciānōrum iussī ab nūllō deinde conciliō Hispāniae benigniōra verba tulēre tulere.Then, ordered to leave the territory of the Volciani at once, they received no kinder words from any council of Spain thereafter.

Liv. 21.19.11Ita nēquīquam peragrātā Hispāniā in Galliam trānseunt.So, having travelled through Spain in vain, they cross into Gaul.

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Latin vocabulary for this passage (150 words)
hic, haec, hoc, dem. pron.this; ille ... hīc, that ... this, the former ... the latter
dērigō, -ere, -rēxī, -rēctumset in line, draw up; direct
percontātiō (percunctātiō), -ōnis f.questioning, inquiry
atque, ac (conj.)and; after comparisons: as, than (ac only before consonants)
dēnūntiātiō, -ōnis f.warning, threat; announcement
bellum, -ī, n.war
magis, comp. adv.more, rather
ex, ē (prep. + abl.)out of, from; of (ē only before consonants)
dignitās, -ātis f.rank, standing, prestige
populus, -ī m.people, nation
Rōmānus, -a, -umRoman
videō, vidēre, vīdī, vīsussee; pass., seem
sum, esse, fuī, futūrusbe
quam, adv.how? as; than; with superl., as ... as possible
dē, prep, with abl.down from, from, out of; about, concerning, of
foedus, -eris n.treaty, alliance
iūs, iūris, n.right, justice, law; iūs dīcere, to pronounce judgment; iūs iūrandum, iūris iūrandī, oath
verbum, -ī, n.word
disceptō, -āre, -āvī, -ātusdebate, dispute; settle a dispute
cum, conj.when, while, after; since; although
ante, prep, with acc. and adv.before
tum, adv.then, at that time
maximē, adv.very greatly, exceedingly, especially
excīdō, -cīdere, -cīdī, -cīsuscut out, cut down, hew through
nam, conj.for
sī, conj.if
disceptātiō, -ōnis f.dispute, debate; case for decision
rēs, reī, f.thing, matter, affair, circumstance, situation; rē vērā, in truth, in fact, really
quis, quid, interrog. pron.who? which? what?
cum, prep, with abl.with
prior, priusearlier, former; in front (priōrēs: those in front)
quī, quae, quod, rel. pron.who, which
mūtō, -āre, -āvī, -ātuschange
comparō, -parāre, -parāvī, -parātusprepare, collect
in, prep. with acc. and abl.with acc.: into, onto, against; with abl.: in, on
disertē (adv.)clearly, eloquently
addō, -ere, -didī, -ditusadd, put to
ita, adv.in this manner, thus, so; ita ut, as
is, ea, id, dem. pron.this, that; he, she, it, they
ratus, -a, -umfixed, settled, valid; (reor) having thought
cēnseō, cēnsēre, cēnsuī, cēnsusthink, believe, consider
neque or nec, conj.and not, nor; neque ... neque, neither ... nor; neque enim, for ... not
excipiō, -cipere, -cēpī, -ceptustake out or up, receive, welcome, entertain
tālis, -esuch
quisquam, quicquam, indef. pron.any one, anything
et, conj.and; et ... et, both ... and
tot (indecl.)so many
annus, -ī, m.year
silentium, -ī n.silence; silentiō: in silence, quietly
vīvus, -a, -umalive, living
comprobō, -āre, -āvī, -ātusapprove; confirm, prove right
ut, conj.as; when; that; ita ut, as
nē, adv.not; nē ... quidem, not ... even; conj., that not, lest
mortuus, -a, -umdead
quidem, adv.in fact, indeed, certainly; nē ... quidem, not ... even
auctor, -ōris m.originator, instigator
quamquam, conj.however much, although
stō, stāre, stetī, statusstand
satis, adv.enough, sufficiently
caveō, cavēre, cāvī, cautusbeware, take care; be on one's guard against, beware of
socius, -ī, m.companion, comrade, ally
uterque, utraque, utrumqueeach, either, both
tunc (adv.)then, at that time
quis, qua, quid, indef. pron.any one, anybody, anything, some one, somebody, something
posteā, adv.after this, afterwards
assūmō, -ere, -sūmpsī, -sūmptustake up, receive; take to oneself
novus, -a, -umnew; novissimus, last
licet, -ēre, -uit or -itum est, impers.is lawful or permitted
aequus, -a, -umlevel; equal; fair
aut, conj.or; aut ... aut, either ... or
ob, prep. with acc.on account of, for; in compounds, to, against
nūllus, -a, -umnot any, none, no
meritum, -ī n.service, desert
amīcitia, -ae f.friendship, alliance
recipiō, -cipere, -cēpī, -ceptustake or get back, recover; sē recipere, to betake oneself, withdraw; to collect oneself, recover
fidēs, -eī f.faith, trust; pledge
nōn, adv.not
dēfendō, -fendere, -fendī, -fēnsusward off; defend
tantum, adv.so much or far, only
sollicitō, -āre, -āvī, -ātumstir up, tempt
ad, prep. with acc.to, toward; at, near; for
dēfectiō, -ōnis f.revolt, desertion
suus, -a, -umhis, her, its, or their own; his, her, its, their
sponte, f. abl. sing., modified by meā, tuā, suāof one's own accord, voluntarily
dēscīscō, -ere, -scīvī, -scītumbreak away, revolt, desert (from: ab)
lēgātus, -ī, m.ambassador
ā, ab (prep. + abl.)away from, from; by (ā only before consonants)
sīcut (conj.)just as
imperō, -perāre, -perāvī, -perātuscommand, order, enjoin
adeō, -īre, -iī, -itusgo to, approach
cīvitās, -tātis, f.state
societās, -ātis f.alliance, partnership
perliciō (pelliciō), -ere, -lexī, -lectusentice, win over, lure
āvertō, -ere, āvertī, āversumturn away, turn aside
trāiciō, -icere, -iēcī, -iectusthrow across, strike through, pierce
prīmum, adv.first, in the first place
veniō, venīre, vēnī, ventuscome
benignē, adv.kindly
quia (conj.)because
taedet, -ēre, taeduit (impers.)it wearies; here used personally: be weary, be distressed
imperium, -ī, n.command; sway, rule
Pūnicus, -a, -umPunic, Carthaginian; bella Pūnica: the wars with Carthage
multus, -a, -ummuch, great; plur., many
trāns, prep. with acc.across, over
cupīdō, -inis f. (in Sallust also m.)desire, longing, greed
fortūna, -ae, f.fortune
ērigō, -rigere, -rēxī, -rēctusraise or set up, raise, lift; cheer, encourage
inde (adv.)from there; then
celeber, celebris, celebrefrequented; renowned, celebrated
per, prep, with ace.through, by means of
respōnsum, -ī, n.reply, answer, response
cēterī, -ae, -a, plur. adj.the other, the remaining, the rest of
enim, conj.for
magnus, -a, -umlarge, big, great, mighty; loud
nātū (abl. only)by birth (maiōrēs nātū: the elders)
concilium, -ī n.meeting, council
respondeō, -spondēre, -spondī, -spōnsusreply, answer
quī, quae, quod, interrog. pron. adj.what?
verēcundia, -ae f.modesty, respect, deference
postulō, -āre, -āvī, -ātusask, request, demand
vōsplur. of tū
vester, -tra, -trumyour
praepōnō, -ere, -posuī, -positumput in command of
faciō, facere, fēcī, factusmake, do; iter facere, see iter
crūdēliter (adv.)cruelly
hostis, -is, m. and f.enemy, foe
perdō, -dere, -didī, -ditusdestroy, ruin; lose, waste
prōdō, -ere, -didī, -ditumhand down; betray
ibi, adv.in that place, there
quaerō, quaerere, quaesīvī, quaesītusseek; ask, inquire
ubi, adv.where; conj., when
Saguntīnus, -a, -umof Saguntum, Saguntine; (m. pl. as noun) the Saguntines
clādēs, -is f.disaster, defeat, destruction
ignōtus, -a, -umunknown
Hispānus, -a, -umSpanish; as noun, a Spaniard
lūgubris, -emournful, of mourning
īnsignis, -enotable, remarkable
documentum, -ī n.lesson, warning, example
ruīna, -ae f.fall, collapse, ruin
cōnfīdō, -ere, cōnfīsus sumtrust, be confident
extemplō, adv.immediately, straightway, at once
abeō, -īre, -iī, -itūrusgo away, depart
fīnis, -is, m.end, boundary; plur., borders, territory, country
iubeō, iubēre, iussī, iussusbid, order, command
deinde, adv.then, next
benignus, -a, -umkind, friendly, generous
ferō, ferre, tulī, lātusbear, bring
nēquīquam (adv.)in vain, without reason
peragrō, -āre, -āvī, -ātustravel through, roam over
trānseō, -īre, -iī, -itusgo across or over, cross
Livy, Ab Urbe Condita XXI. Latin text: B. O. Foster, Livy (Loeb, 1919–29), with some passages from W. Weissenborn and H. J. Müller (Teubner, 1884–1911), public domain; digital text from the Perseus Digital Library, CC BY-SA. Word analysis: drafted by our own tagger (trained on the hand-checked texts on this site), with every doubtful word checked by hand. English translation and section titles: written for this app, each checked against the Latin by a second reader.