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Pliny · Epistulae VII

Pliny, Letter 7.17

In defence of reading speeches

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Ep. 7.17.1Sua cuique ratiō recitandī;Everyone has his own reason for giving readings; Ep. 7.17.1mihi quod saepe iam dīxī, ut sī quid mē fugit - ut certē fugit - admonear.mine, as I have often said already, is that if anything has escaped me — as certainly it has — I may be told of it. Ep. 7.17.2Quō magis mīror, quod scrībis fuisse quōsdam quī reprehenderent quod ōrātiōnēs omnīnō recitārem;So I am all the more surprised that you write that there were some who criticised me for reading speeches at all; Ep. 7.17.2nisi vērō hās sōlās nōn putant ēmendandās.unless, indeed, they think that these alone need no correcting. Ep. 7.17.3Ā quibus libenter requīsierim, cūr concēdant - sī concēdunt tamen - historiam dēbēre recitārī, quae nōn ostentātiōnī sed fideī vēritātīque compōnitur;I should gladly ask them why they allow — if indeed they do allow it — that history ought to be read aloud, which is composed not for display but for faithfulness and truth; Ep. 7.17.3cūr tragoediam, quae nōn audītōrium sed scaenam et āctōrēs;why tragedy, which demands not a lecture hall but a stage and actors; Ep. 7.17.3cūr lyrica, quae nōn lēctōrem sed chorum et lyram poscunt.why lyric poetry, which demands not a reader but a chorus and a lyre.

Ep. 7.17.3At hōrum recitātiō ūsū iam recepta est.But the reading of these is already accepted by custom. Ep. 7.17.4Num ergō culpandus est ille quī coepit?Is the man who began it, then, to be blamed? Ep. 7.17.4Quamquam ōrātiōnēs quoque et nostrī quīdam et Graecī lēctitāvērunt.Although some of our own people, and Greeks too, used to read out speeches as well. Ep. 7.17.5Supervacuum tamen est recitāre quae dīxerīs.Still, it is pointless to read out what you have already delivered. Ep. 7.17.5Etiam, sī eadem omnia, sī īsdem omnibus, sī statim recitēs;Yes, if you read all the same things, to all the same people, and straight away; Ep. 7.17.5sī vērō multa īnserās multa commūtēs, sī quōsdam novōs quōsdam eōsdem sed post tempus assūmās, cūr minus probābilis sit causa recitandī quae dīxerīs quam ēdendī?but if you insert much and change much, if you bring in some new listeners and some of the same ones but after an interval, why should the reason for reading what you have delivered be less acceptable than that for publishing it? Ep. 7.17.6Sed difficile est ut ōrātiō dum recitātur satisfaciat.But it is difficult for a speech to give satisfaction while it is being read aloud.

Ep. 7.17.6Iam hoc ad labōrem recitantis pertinet, nōn ad ratiōnem nōn recitandī.That now concerns the effort of the reader, not a reason for not reading. Ep. 7.17.7Nec vērō ego dum recitō laudārī, sed dum legor cupiō.Nor indeed do I want to be praised while I am reading aloud, but when I am read. Ep. 7.17.7Itaque nūllum ēmendandī genus omittō.So I omit no kind of correction. Ep. 7.17.7Ac prīmum quae scrīpsī mēcum ipse pertractō;First I go over what I have written by myself; Ep. 7.17.7deinde duōbus aut tribus legō;then I read it to two or three people; Ep. 7.17.7mox aliīs trādō adnotanda, notāsque eōrum, sī dubitō, cum ūnō rūrsus aut alterō pēnsitō;next I hand it to others to annotate, and their notes, if I am in doubt, I weigh once more with one or two others; Ep. 7.17.7novissimē plūribus recitō, ac sī quid mihi crēdis tunc ācerrimē ēmendō;last of all I read it to a larger number, and, believe me, it is then that I correct most keenly; Ep. 7.17.8nam tantō dīligentius quantō sollicitius intendō.for I attend the more carefully the more anxiously I concentrate.

Ep. 7.17.8Optimē autem reverentia pudor metus iūdicant, idque adeō sīc habē: Nōnne sī locūtūrus es cum aliquō quamlibet doctō, ūnō tamen, minus commovēris quam sī cum multīs vel indoctīs?Respect, modesty and fear are the best judges, and you may take it to be so: if you are about to speak with someone, however learned, but only one, are you not less disturbed than if you were speaking with many, even unlearned? Ep. 7.17.9Nōnne cum surgis ad agendum, tunc maximē tibi ipse diffīdis, tunc commūtāta nōn dīcō plūrima sed omnia cupis?When you rise to plead, is it not then above all that you distrust yourself, then that you wish, I will not say most things, but everything changed? Ep. 7.17.9utique sī lātior scaena et corōna diffūsior;especially if the stage is wider and the ring of listeners more extensive; Ep. 7.17.9nam illōs quoque sordidōs pullātōsque reverēmur.for we stand in awe even of those shabby people in dark clothes. Ep. 7.17.10Nōnne sī prīma quaeque improbārī putās, dēbilitāris et concīdis?If you think that your opening words are disapproved of, are you not unnerved and do you not collapse?

Ep. 7.17.10Opīnor, quia in numerō ipsō est quoddam magnum collātumque cōnsilium, quibusque singulīs iūdiciī parum, omnibus plūrimum.I suppose it is because in mere numbers there is a kind of great collective wisdom, and those who individually have little judgement have a great deal all together. Ep. 7.17.11Itaque Pompōnius Secundus - hic scrīptor tragoediārum -, sī quid forte familiārior amīcus tollendum, ipse retinendum arbitrārētur, dīcere solēbat: "Ad populum prōvocō", atque ita ex populī vel silentiō vel assēnsū aut suam aut amīcī sententiam sequēbātur.So Pomponius Secundus — the well-known writer of tragedies — if ever a rather intimate friend thought something should be cut which he himself thought should be kept, used to say: 'I appeal to the people', and so, according to the people's silence or applause, he followed either his own opinion or his friend's. Ep. 7.17.12Tantum ille populō dabat;So much did he grant to the people; Ep. 7.17.12rēctē an secus, nihil ad mē.whether rightly or not is no concern of mine. Ep. 7.17.12Ego enim nōn populum advocāre sed certōs ēlēctōsque soleō, quōs intuear quibus crēdam, quōs dēnique et tamquam singulōs observem et tamquam nōn singulōs timeam.For I am accustomed to invite not the people but particular, chosen persons, whom I can watch and whom I can trust, whom, in short, I can both observe as individuals and fear as though they were not individuals.

Ep. 7.17.13Nam, quod M. Cicerō dē stilō, ego dē metū sentiō: timor est, timor ēmendātor asperrimus.For what Marcus Cicero thought about the pen, I think about fear: fear is, fear is the harshest corrector. Ep. 7.17.13Hoc ipsum quod nōs recitātūrōs cōgitāmus ēmendat;The very thought that we are going to read corrects; Ep. 7.17.13quod audītōrium ingredimur ēmendat;entering the hall corrects; Ep. 7.17.13quod pallēmus horrēscimus circumspicimus ēmendat.turning pale, shuddering, looking around corrects. Ep. 7.17.14Proinde nōn paenitet mē cōnsuētūdinis meae quam ūtilissimam experior, adeōque nōn dēterreor sermunculīs istōrum, ut ultrō tē rogem mōnstrēs aliquid quod hīs addam.So I do not regret my custom, which I find most useful, and I am so far from being deterred by those people's gossip that I even ask you to point out something I might add to these practices. Ep. 7.17.15Nihil enim cūrae meae satis est.For nothing is enough for my care. Ep. 7.17.15Cōgitō quam sit magnum dare aliquid in manūs hominum, nec persuādēre mihi possum nōn et cum multīs et saepe trāctandum, quod placēre et semper et omnibus cupiās.I reflect how great a thing it is to give something into men's hands, and I cannot persuade myself that what you wish to please always and everyone should not be gone over with many people and often.

Ep. 7.17.15Valē.Farewell.

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Latin vocabulary for this passage (241 words)
suus, -a, -umhis, her, its, or their own; his, her, its, their
quisque, quaeque, quidque, indef. pron.each
ratiō, -ōnis, f.plan, means, method, manner; reason; account
recitō, -āre, -āvī, -ātusread aloud
ego, meī, pers. pron.I
quī, quae, quod, rel. pron.who, which
saepe, adv.often, frequently
iam, adv.now, already
dīcō, dīcere, dīxī, dictussay, speak; diem dīcere, to appoint or set a day
ut, conj.as; when; that; ita ut, as
sī, conj.if
quis, qua, quid, indef. pron.any one, anybody, anything, some one, somebody, something
fugiō, fugere, fūgī, fugitūrusflee, run away
certē (adv.)certainly, surely; at any rate
admoneō, -ēre, -uī, -itusremind, warn, advise
quō, adv.to what place? whither? to which place, whither; for which reason, wherefore, therefore; quō ūsque, till when? how long?
magis, comp. adv.more, rather
mīror, -ārī, -ātuswonder, wonder at
quod, conj.that, in that, because
scrībō, scrībere, scrīpsī, scrīptuswrite
sum, esse, fuī, futūrusbe
quīdam, quaedam, quoddam, indef. pron.a certain, certain
reprehendō, -ere, -hendī, -hēnsumblame, criticise
ōrātiō, -ōnis, f.speech; ōrātiōnem habēre, to deliver an oration, speak
omnīnō, adv.altogether, wholly, entirely
nisi, conj.if not, unless
vērō, adv.in truth, indeed; however
hic, haec, hoc, dem. pron.this; ille ... hīc, that ... this, the former ... the latter
sōlus, -a, -umalone
nōn, adv.not
putō, -āre, -āvī, -ātusthink
ēmendō, -āre, -āvī, -ātuscorrect, make good, remove faults
ā, ab (prep. + abl.)away from, from; by (ā only before consonants)
libenter, adv.willingly, gladly
requīrō, -ere, -quīsīvī, -quīsītuslook for, ask after; need
cūr, adv.why
concēdō, -cēdere, -cessī, -cessusgrant, yield
tamen, adv.however, yet, nevertheless
historia, -ae f.history, an account of past events
dēbeō, -ēre, -uī, -itusowe; with infin., ought
ostentātiō, -ōnis f.display, show
sed, conj.but
fidēs, -eī f.faith, trust; pledge
vēritās, -ātis f.truth
que, enclitic conj.and
compōnō, -ere, -posuī, -positumput together; mend, set in order
tragoedia, -ae f.tragedy; (fig.) bombast, theatrical fuss
audītōrium, -ī n.audience hall, lecture room; audience
scaena, -ae f.stage, theatre
et, conj.and; et ... et, both ... and
āctor, -ōris m.a driver (of cattle), herdsman; agent, manager; doer
lyricus, -a, -umof the lyre, lyric
lēctor, -ōris m.reader
chorus, -ī m.dance in a ring; band of dancers
lyra, -ae f.lyre; lyric poetry; (cap.) the Lyre, a constellation
poscō, poscere, poposcīask, demand
at, conj.but
recitātiō, -ōnis f.public reading, recital
ūsus, -ūs, m.use; experience
recipiō, -cipere, -cēpī, -ceptustake or get back, recover; sē recipere, to betake oneself, withdraw; to collect oneself, recover
num, adv., introducing a question to which a negative answer is expecteduntranslatable
ergō (adv.)therefore, then; quid ergō? what then?
culpō, -āre, -āvī, -ātusblame
ille, illa, illud, dem. pron.that; he, she, it, they; ille ... hīc, see hīc
coepī, coepisse, coeptus (used in tenses of completed action)have begun, began
quamquam, conj.however much, although
quoque, adv.also
noster, -tra, -trumour
lēctitō, -āre, -āvī, -ātusread often, read eagerly; read again and again
supervacuus, -a, -umsuperfluous, unnecessary, needless
etiam, adv.and now, also, too, even
īdem, eadem, idem, dem. pron.the same; sometimes to be translated likewise, also
omnis, -eall, every
statim, adv.on the spot, forthwith, at once, immediately
multus, -a, -ummuch, great; plur., many
īnserō, -ere, -seruī, -sertumput in, insert
commūtō, -āre, -āvī, -ātumchange
novus, -a, -umnew; novissimus, last
post, adv.after, later; prep. with acc., after, behind
tempus, temporis, n.time, season
assūmō, -ere, -sūmpsī, -sūmptustake up, receive; take to oneself
minus, comp. adv.less
probābilis, -ecommendable, acceptable; plausible, likely
causa, -ae, f.cause, reason; abl. causā, for the sake of
quam, adv.how? as; than; with superl., as ... as possible
ēdō, -dere, -didī, -ditusput forth, give out, utter
difficilis, -enot easy, difficult
dum, conj.while, as; as long as; until
satisfaciō, -ere, -fēcī, -factum (+ dat.)satisfy; make amends, apologize
ad, prep. with acc.to, toward; at, near; for
labor, -ōris, m.labor, toil
pertineō, -ēre, -uīextend, reach; tend toward, concern
neque or nec, conj.and not, nor; neque ... neque, neither ... nor; neque enim, for ... not
laudō, -āre, -āvī, -ātumpraise
legō, legere, lēgī, lēctuschoose, pick out; read
cupiō, -ere, -īvī, -ītusdesire, long for, wish
itaque, adv.and so, accordingly, therefore
nūllus, -a, -umnot any, none, no
genus, generis, n.kind, nature
omittō, -mittere, -mīsī, -missuslet go, neglect, disregard, throw away, lose
atque, ac (conj.)and; after comparisons: as, than (ac only before consonants)
prīmum, adv.first, in the first place
ipse, ipsa, ipsum, intensive pron.self, himself, herself, itself, themselves; often to be rendered by very
pertractō, -āre, -āvī, -ātumhandle, feel all over
deinde, adv.then, next
duo, -ae, -o, plur. adj.two
aut, conj.or; aut ... aut, either ... or
trēs, tria, plur. adj.three
mox, adv.soon
alius, -a, -udanother, other; aliī ... aliī, some ... others
trādō, -dere, -didī, -ditusgive across, over, or up, deliver; hand down, relate, report
adnotō (annotō), -āre, -āvī, -ātusnote down, take note of, observe
nota, -ae f.mark, sign; brand, stigma
is, ea, id, dem. pron.this, that; he, she, it, they
dubitō, -āre, -āvī, -ātusdoubt, hesitate
cum, prep, with abl.with
ūnus, -a, -umone; only, alone
rūrsus, adv.again
alter, -era, -erumone or the other (of two); another, second
pēnsitō, -āre, -āvī, -ātuspay (taxes, tribute); weigh, ponder
novissimē (adv.)lastly, finally, at last
plūrēs, -a, plur. adj.more, many, several
crēdō, -dere, -didī, -ditusbelieve
tunc (adv.)then, at that time
ācriter, adv.sharply, fiercely
nam, conj.for
tantus, -a, -umso great or much
dīligenter, adv.carefully, diligently
quantus, -a, -umhow great or much?
sollicitē (adv.)anxiously, carefully, with great care
intendō, -tendere, -tendī, -tentusstretch out; stretch, draw, aim
bene, adv.well; successfully
autem, conj.moreover; but, however; now
reverentia, -ae f.respect, modesty, shyness
pudor, -ōris m.shame, sense of honour
metus, -ūs m.fear, dread
iūdicō, -āre, -āvī, -ātumjudge, decide
adeō (adv.)so far, to such a degree; so
sīc, adv.so, thus
habeō, -ēre, -uī, -itushave, hold; consider
nōnne, adv., introducing a question to which an affirmative answer is expectednot?
loquor, loquī, locūtusspeak
aliquis, -quid, indef. pron.someone, any one, something, anything, some, any
quamlibet (adv.)as much as you like
doctus, -a, -umlearned, skilled, trained (in: abl.)
commoveō, -movēre, -mōvī, -mōtusmove, rouse; disturb
velor; vel … vel: either … or
indoctus, -a, -umuntaught, ignorant
cum, conj.when, while, after; since; although
surgō, -ere, surrēxī, surrēctusrise, get up, stand up
agō, agere, ēgī, āctusdrive; do; pass, lead; grātiās agere, see grātia
maximē, adv.very greatly, exceedingly, especially
tū, tuī, pers. pron.thou, you
diffīdō, -ere, -fīsus sumdistrust, lose confidence in (+ dat.)
utique (adv.)certainly, by all means; yes indeed
lātus, -a, -umbroad, wide
corōna, -ae f.crown, wreath (sub corōnā vēndere: sell as slaves)
diffūsus, -a, -umspread out, wide, extensive
sordidus, -a, -umdirty; mean, base, of low status
pullātus, -a, -umdressed in dark (drab) clothes; of the common people
revereor, -ērī, -veritus sumrespect, stand in awe of
prīmus, -a, -umfirst, foremost
improbō, -āre, -āvī, -ātusdisapprove of, reject
dēbilitō, -āre, -āvī, -ātusweaken, cripple, unnerve
concīdō, -ere, concīdī, concīsumcut down, kill
opīnor, -ārī, -ātus sumthink, suppose; ut opīnor: I imagine
quia (conj.)because
in, prep. with acc. and abl.with acc.: into, onto, against; with abl.: in, on
numerus, -ī, m.number
magnus, -a, -umlarge, big, great, mighty; loud
cōnferō, cōnferre, contulī, conlātusbring together; grant, confer; sē cōnferre, to betake oneself, make one's way
cōnsilium, -ī, n.advice; plan, design, purpose; prudence
singulī, -ae, -aone at a time, single
iūdicium, -ī n.trial, court; judgment
parum (comp. minus, superl. minimē)too little; minimē: least, not at all
scrīptor, -ōris m.writer, author
forte, adv.by chance, accidentally
familiāris, -e; as noun, -is m.of the household (rēs familiāris: private property); friend
amīcus, -ī, m.friend
tollō, tollere, sustulī, sublātuslift, raise; take away, remove; ancorās tollere, to weigh anchor
retineō, -tinēre, -tinuī, -tentushold or keep back, keep, restrain; hold fast
arbitror, -ārī, -ātusconsider, think, judge
soleō, -ēre, solitus sumbe accustomed, usually do
populus, -ī m.people, nation
prōvocō, -vocāre, -vocāvī, -vocātuscall forth or out, challenge
ita, adv.in this manner, thus, so; ita ut, as
ex, ē (prep. + abl.)out of, from; of (ē only before consonants)
silentium, -ī n.silence; silentiō: in silence, quietly
assēnsus (adsēnsus), -ūs m.agreement, approval, assent
sententia, -ae, f.opinion; purpose
sequor, sequī, secūtusfollow
tantum, adv.so much or far, only
dō, dare, dedī, datusgive
rēctē (adv.)rightly, properly; safely
an, conj.or (in questions)
secus (prep. + acc.)beside, along
nihil, n., indecl.nothing
enim, conj.for
advocō, -āre, -āvī, -ātuscall, summon (contiōnem advocāre: call an assembly)
certus, -a, -umdetermined, fixed, certain; certiōrem facere, to make more certain, inform
ēligō, -ere, ēlēgī, ēlēctumpick out, choose
intueor, -tuērī, -tuituslook upon, behold
dēnique, adv.lastly, finally
tamquam (adv., conj.)as, just as; as if
observō, -āre, -āvī, -ātumwatch; keep, respect
timeō, -ēre, -uīfear
dē, prep, with abl.down from, from, out of; about, concerning, of
stilus, -ī m.a pointed stake, a caltrop set in the ground against attackers
sentiō, sentīre, sēnsī, sēnsusperceive, feel
timor, -ōris, m.fear
ēmendātor, -ōris m.corrector, reformer
asper, -era, -erumrough, harsh; difficult
nōsplur. of ego
cōgitō, -āre, -āvī, -ātusconsider, think over
ingredior, -ī, ingressus sumgo into, enter
palleō, -ēre, -uībe pale
horrēscō, -ere, horruīshudder, begin to tremble (at)
circumspiciō, -ere, -spexī, -spectuslook around; look around for, consider
proinde (adv.)therefore, accordingly; so then
paeniteō, -ēre, -uīcause regret; impersonal: it causes regret (to)
cōnsuētūdō, -inis f.custom, habit; way of life
meus, -a, -ummy, mine
ūtilis, -euseful, advantageous
experior, -īrī, expertus sumtry, test, experience
dēterreō, -terrēre, -terruī, -territusfrighten off, deter
sermunculus, -ī m.gossip, tittle-tattle
iste, ista, istud, dem. pron.that of yours, that
ultrō (adv.)of one's own accord; besides (ultrō citrōque: back and forth)
rogō, -āre, -āvī, -ātusask
mōnstrō, -āre, -āvī, -ātuspoint out, show
addō, -ere, -didī, -ditusadd, put to
cūra, -ae f.care, concern (cūrae esse: to be a concern)
satis, adv.enough, sufficiently
manus, -ūs, f.hand
homō, hominis, m.man
persuādeō, -suādēre, -suāsi, -suāsuspersuade, prevail upon, induce
possum, posse, potuībe able, have power, can
trāctō, -āre, -āvī, -ātushandle, touch, feel
placeō, -ēre, placuī, placitum (+ dat.)please (placuit eī: he decided)
semper, adv.always
valeō, -ēre, -uī, -itūrusbe strong or effectual, have effect, prevail
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