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Pro Murena 13

Law, oratory and the consulship

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Mur. 13.1Itaque, ut dīxī, dignitās in istā scientia cōnsulāris numquam fuit, quae tōta ex rēbus fictīs commentīciīsque cōnstāret, grātiae vērō multō etiam minus.So, as I said, there was never any consular dignity in that science of yours, which consisted wholly of things fictitious and invented, and still less any power to win favour. Mur. 13.1Quod enim omnibus patet et aequē promptum est mihi et adversāriō meō, id esse grātum nūllō pactō potest.For what is open to everyone, and equally available to me and to my opponent, can in no way earn gratitude. Mur. 13.1Itaque nōn modo beneficī conlocandī spem sed etiam illud quod aliquamdiū fuit "Licet cōnsulere?"So you have lost not only the hope of conferring a favour, but even that which for some time existed, 'May I consult you?' Mur. 13.1iam perdidistis.— you have lost it already. Mur. 13.1Sapiēns exīstimārī nēmō potest in eā prūdentiā quae neque extrā Rōmam usquam neque Rōmae rēbus prōlātīs quicquam valet.No one can be thought wise in that knowledge which is worth nothing anywhere outside Rome, nor at Rome when the courts are adjourned. Mur. 13.1Perītus ideō habērī nēmō potest quod in eō quod sciunt omnēs nūllō modō possunt inter sē discrepāre.No one can be considered expert in it, because in what everyone knows they can in no way differ from one another.

Mur. 13.1Difficilis autem rēs ideō nōn putātur quod et perpaucīs et minimē obscūrīs litterīs continētur.Nor is the matter thought difficult, because it is contained in very few and by no means obscure documents. Mur. 13.1Itaque sī mihi, hominī vehementer occupātō, stomachum mōveritis, trīduō mē iūris cōnsultum esse profitēbor.So if you provoke my temper, busy man as I am, in three days I shall declare myself a jurisconsult. Mur. 13.1Etenim quae dē scrīptō aguntur, scrīpta sunt omnia, neque tamen quicquam tam angustē scrīptum est quō ego nōn possim "quā dē rē agitur" addere;Indeed, for matters dealt with in writing, everything is already written down, and yet nothing is written so narrowly that I cannot add 'in the matter in question'; Mur. 13.1quae cōnsuluntur autem, minimō perīculō respondentur.while questions on which you are consulted are answered at very little risk. Mur. 13.1Sī id quod oportet responderīs, idem videāre respondisse quod Servius;If you give the proper answer, you will seem to have given the same answer as Servius; Mur. 13.1sīn aliter, etiam contrōversum iūs nōsse et trāctāre videāre.if otherwise, you will seem to know and handle disputed law as well.

Mur. 13.29Quāpropter nōn sōlum illa glōria mīlitāris vestrīs fōrmulīs atque āctiōnibus antepōnenda est vērum etiam dīcendī cōnsuētūdō longē et multum istī vestrae exercitātiōnī ad honōrem antecellit.Therefore not only is that military glory to be preferred to your formulas and actions, but also the practice of speaking far and greatly surpasses that exercise of yours in winning office. Mur. 13.29Itaque mihi videntur plērīque initiō multō hoc māluisse, post, cum id adsequī nōn potuissent, istūc potissimum sunt dēlapsī.So it seems to me that most men at first much preferred this, and afterwards, when they had been unable to achieve it, slipped down to that in particular. Mur. 13.29Vt aiunt in Graecīs artificibus eōs aulōedōs esse quī citharoedī fierī nōn potuerint, sīc nōs vidēmus, quī ōrātōrēs ēvādere nōn potuerint, eōs ad iūris studium dēvenīre.Just as they say that among Greek performers those become singers to the pipe who could not become singers to the lyre, so we see that those who could not turn out orators end up in the study of law. Mur. 13.29Magnus dīcendī labor, magna rēs, magna dignitās, summa autem grātia.Great is the labour of speaking, great the task, great the dignity, and the influence it brings is the highest.

Mur. 13.29Etenim ā vōbīs salūbritās quaedam, ab eīs quī dīcunt salūs ipsa petitur.Indeed, from you people seek a sort of soundness, from those who speak they seek salvation itself. Mur. 13.29Deinde vestra respōnsa atque dēcrēta et ēvertuntur saepe dīcendō et sine dēfēnsiōne ōrātiōnis firma esse nōn possunt.Then too, your opinions and rulings are often overturned by speaking, and cannot stand firm without the defence of oratory. Mur. 13.29In quā sī satis prōfēcissem, parcius dē eius laude dīcerem;If I had made sufficient progress in it, I would speak more sparingly in its praise; Mur. 13.29nunc nihil dē mē dīcō, sed dē eīs quī in dīcendō magnī sunt aut fuērunt.as it is, I say nothing about myself, but about those who are or have been great in speaking.

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Latin vocabulary for this passage (171 words)
itaque, adv.and so, accordingly, therefore
ut, conj.as; when; that; ita ut, as
dīcō, dīcere, dīxī, dictussay, speak; diem dīcere, to appoint or set a day
dignitās, -ātis f.rank, standing, prestige
in, prep. with acc. and abl.with acc.: into, onto, against; with abl.: in, on
iste, ista, istud, dem. pron.that of yours, that
scientia, -ae, f.knowledge, skill
cōnsulāris, -eof a consul, consular; as noun: ex-consul; comitia cōnsulāria: the consular elections
numquam, adv.never
sum, esse, fuī, futūrusbe
quī, quae, quod, rel. pron.who, which
tōtus, -a, -umall the, the whole or entire
ex, ē (prep. + abl.)out of, from; of (ē only before consonants)
rēs, reī, f.thing, matter, affair, circumstance, situation; rē vērā, in truth, in fact, really
fingō, fingere, finxī, fictusinvent, make up
commentīcius, -a, -uminvented, made up, fictitious
que, enclitic conj.and
cōnstō, -stāre, -stitī, -stātūrusstand together, agree; consist;
grātia, -ae, f.favor; gratitude, thanks; plur., thanks; grātiās agere, to give thanks, thank; grātiam referre, to return a favor, show gratitude, requite
vērō, adv.in truth, indeed; however
multō, adv.by much or far, much, far
etiam, adv.and now, also, too, even
minus, comp. adv.less
enim, conj.for
omnis, -eall, every
pateō, -ēre, -uīlie open; extend, stretch
et, conj.and; et ... et, both ... and
aequē (adv.)equally, just as; aequē ac: just as
promptus, -a, -umready, eager
ego, meī, pers. pron.I
adversārius, -ī m.opponent, enemy
meus, -a, -ummy, mine
is, ea, id, dem. pron.this, that; he, she, it, they
grātus, -a, -umpleasing, grateful
nūllus, -a, -umnot any, none, no
pactum, -ī n.agreement; quō pactō: in what way, how
possum, posse, potuībe able, have power, can
nōn, adv.not
modo, adv.only
beneficium, -ī, n.well-doing, kindness, service, benefit
conlocō, -locāre, -locāvī, -locātusplace together, put, place
spēs, speī, f.hope
sed, conj.but
ille, illa, illud, dem. pron.that; he, she, it, they; ille ... hīc, see hīc
aliquam diū (adv.)for some time
licet, -ēre, -uit or -itum est, impers.is lawful or permitted
cōnsulō, -ere, -uī, -tusconsult
iam, adv.now, already
perdō, -dere, -didī, -ditusdestroy, ruin; lose, waste
sapiēns, -entiswise; as noun, a wise man, a philosopher
exīstimō, -āre, -āvī, -ātusconsider, believe, think
nēmō, nēminis, m. and f.no one, nobody
prūdentia, -ae, f.prudence
neque or nec, conj.and not, nor; neque ... neque, neither ... nor; neque enim, for ... not
extrā (prep. + acc.)outside, beyond
usquam (adv.)anywhere
prōferō, -ferre, -tulī, -lātusbring forward, bring out
quisquam, quicquam, indef. pron.any one, anything
valeō, -ēre, -uī, -itūrusbe strong or effectual, have effect, prevail
perītus, -a, -um (+ gen.)skilled, experienced (in)
ideō (adv.)for that reason, therefore
habeō, -ēre, -uī, -itushave, hold; consider
quod, conj.that, in that, because
eō (adv.)to that place, thither; to that point (usque eō); (with comparatives) by so much, all the (more)
sciō, -īre, -īvī, -ītusknow
modus, -ī, m.way, manner
inter, prep, with acc.among, between
suī, sibi, sē or sēsē, reflexive pron.himself, herself, itself, themselves
discrepō, -āre, -āvī/-uīdiffer, be unlike; disagree, be at odds
difficilis, -enot easy, difficult
autem, conj.moreover; but, however; now
putō, -āre, -āvī, -ātusthink
perpaucī, -ae, -avery few
minimē, adv.least, very little; by no means, not at all
obscūrus, -a, -umdark
litterae, -ārum f. pl.letters (of the alphabet); a letter, dispatch
contineō, -tinēre, -tinuī, -tentushold together, keep within, shut up in; bound
sī, conj.if
homō, hominis, m.man
vehementer, adv.violently, vehemently; earnestly; exceedingly, greatly
occupō, -cupāre, -cupāvī, -cupātusseize; fill
stomachus, -ī m.gullet, windpipe; stomach
moveō, movēre, mōvī, mōtusmove
trīduum, -ī n.three days
iūs, iūris, n.right, justice, law; iūs dīcere, to pronounce judgment; iūs iūrandum, iūris iūrandī, oath
cōnsultus, -a, -umskilled, learned (in: gen.)
profiteor, -ērī, -fessus sumdeclare openly; offer oneself as
etenim (conj.)for indeed, and in fact
dē, prep, with abl.down from, from, out of; about, concerning, of
scrīptum, -ī n.something written; (pl.) writings, works
agō, agere, ēgī, āctusdrive; do; pass, lead; grātiās agere, see grātia
scrībō, scrībere, scrīpsī, scrīptuswrite
tamen, adv.however, yet, nevertheless
tam, adv.so
angustē (adv.; comp. angustius)closely, tightly, in a narrow space
addō, -ere, -didī, -ditusadd, put to
parvus, -a, -umlittle, small
perīculum, -ī, n.danger, peril, risk
respondeō, -spondēre, -spondī, -spōnsusreply, answer
oportet, -ēre, oportuit (impersonal)it is right, it is necessary
īdem, eadem, idem, dem. pron.the same; sometimes to be translated likewise, also
videō, vidēre, vīdī, vīsussee; pass., seem
sīn (conj.)but if
aliter, adv.in another way, otherwise, differently
contrōversus, -a, -umdisputed, in dispute, questionable
nōscō, -ere, nōvī, nōtumget to know (perf. nōvī: know)
trāctō, -āre, -āvī, -ātushandle, touch, feel
quāpropter (adv.)for which reason, wherefore
sōlum (adv.); solum, -ī n.only (nōn sōlum … sed etiam: not only … but also); ground, soil
glōria, -ae, f.glory
mīlitāris, -emilitary, warlike; rēs mīlitāris, art of war, warfare
vester, -tra, -trumyour
fōrmula, -ae f.fixed form of words, formula
atque, ac (conj.)and; after comparisons: as, than (ac only before consonants)
āctiō, -ōnis f.doing, action; a public act or measure
antepōnō, -ere, -posuī, -positusplace before; prefer
vērum (conj.)but, but in fact; nōn modo ... vērum etiam: not only ... but also
cōnsuētūdō, -inis f.custom, habit; way of life
longē, adv.far
multum, -ī, n.much
exercitātiō, -ōnis, f.exercise
ad, prep. with acc.to, toward; at, near; for
honor, -ōris, m.honor
antecellō, -celleresurpass, excel
plērīque, plēraeque, plēraquemost, very many
initium, -ī, n.beginning
hic, haec, hoc, dem. pron.this; ille ... hīc, that ... this, the former ... the latter
mālō, mālle, māluīwish rather, prefer
post, adv.after, later; prep. with acc., after, behind
cum, conj.when, while, after; since; although
adsequor, -sequī, -secūtus sumovertake; gain, achieve
istūc (adv.)to where you are, thither; to that point
potissimum (adv.)above all, in preference to all others
dēlābor, -lābī, -lapsusslip or fall down
āiō (defective)say, affirm; ut aiunt: as they say
artifex, -icis m.artist, craftsman; scaenicus artifex: actor
aulōedus, -ī m.singer accompanied by the pipe
citharoedus, -ī, m.citharoedus (one who sings to the accompaniment of the cithara)
fīō, fierī, factus sumbe done or made, become, happen
sīc, adv.so, thus
nōsplur. of ego
ōrātor, -ōris m.speaker; envoy
ēvādō, -vādere, -vāsī, -vāsusgo forth, get away, escape
studium, -ī, n.eagerness, zeal; study, pursuit
dēveniō, -īre, dēvēnī, dēventumcome, arrive
magnus, -a, -umlarge, big, great, mighty; loud
labor, -ōris, m.labor, toil
summus, -a, -umuppermost, highest, greatest
ā, ab (prep. + abl.)away from, from; by (ā only before consonants)
vōsplur. of tū
salūbritās, -ātis f.healthiness, wholesome conditions
quīdam, quaedam, quoddam, indef. pron.a certain, certain
salūs, salūtis, f.safety, deliverance, escape
ipse, ipsa, ipsum, intensive pron.self, himself, herself, itself, themselves; often to be rendered by very
petō, -ere, -īvī or -iī, -ītusseek, ask; attack
deinde, adv.then, next
respōnsum, -ī, n.reply, answer, response
dēcrētum, -ī n.decision, decree
ēvertō, -vertere, -vertī, -versusoverturn, overthrow, destroy
saepe, adv.often, frequently
sine, prep. with abl.without
dēfēnsiō, -ōnis f.defence
ōrātiō, -ōnis, f.speech; ōrātiōnem habēre, to deliver an oration, speak
firmus, -a, -umstrong, steadfast
satis, adv.enough, sufficiently
prōficiō, -ere, -fēcī, -fectumaccomplish, make progress
parcē (adv.)sparingly, frugally
laus, laudis f.praise, glory
nunc, adv.now
nihil, n., indecl.nothing
aut, conj.or; aut ... aut, either ... or
Cicero, Pro Murena. Latin text: A. C. Clark, M. Tulli Ciceronis Orationes I (Oxford, 1908), public domain; digital text from the Perseus Digital Library, CC BY-SA. Word analysis: drafted by our own tagger (trained on the hand-checked texts on this site), with every doubtful word checked by hand. English translation and section titles: written for this app, each checked against the Latin by a second reader.